Take It From Us
Let's dismantle whiteness
The concepts we’re talking about are not our original ideas. We are two white guys from Iowa City sharing thoughts we have that have been informed by many different indigenous and black perspectives. The point of this podcast is not to claim expertise about these ideas, but to urge other white people to start (and never stop) deconstructing whiteness and dismantling white supremacy. The title of the podcast is somewhat ironic—you should not take our perception of these concepts at face value. Dig into the resources provided and actively seek out more.
3. Every jail is racist
June 23, 2026 | Recorded June 21, 2026
Resources:
Nikole Hannah-Jones—The 1619 Project
Mariame Kaba—We Do This 'Til We Free Us
Michelle Alexander—The New Jim Crow
Angela Davis—Freedom is a Constant Struggle
2. Let people have fun on the ped mall
June 4, 2026 | Recorded May 29, 2026 in Iowa City
Resources:
Ibram X. Kendi—How to be an Antiracist
Michelle Alexander—The New Jim Crow
Courtney Ariel—The Business of Prioritizing White Comfort
Tema Okun—Right to Comfort, Power Hoarding & Fear of Conflict
1. What the fuck is "public land"
May 29, 2026 | Recorded May 17, 2026 at Zion National Park
Resources:
Robin Wall Kimmerer—Braiding Sweetgrass, The Serviceberry
Nick Estes—Our History is the Future, cohosts the Red Nation Podcast
Melanie Yazzie & Elena Ortiz—Red Power Hour vs. Indigenous Futurism
Sikowis Nobiss, Great Plains Action Society—End Stage Iowa: Big Ag’s Sacrifice Zone and Indigenous Resistance